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Simson: /* gmail imap review */

2010-01-08T17:56:48Z

gmail imap review

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	* Deleting a message on Mac moves the mail into "Deleted Messages" mailbox, which adds the "Deleted Messages" tag on gmail. But emptying the trash doesn't actually delete the message from the gmail archive, it just removes the tag.		* Deleting a message on Mac moves the mail into "Deleted Messages" mailbox, which adds the "Deleted Messages" tag on gmail. But emptying the trash doesn't actually delete the message from the gmail archive, it just removes the tag.
	* "undo" doesn't work on Apple interface after a Delete.		* "undo" doesn't work on Apple interface after a Delete.

			2009-01-08 --- After using gmail's imap server for a week, I'm giving up on it. It's pretty reliable, but I encountered two show-stoppers:
			# When an IMAP client was disconnected for several days and reconnects, it did not update properly.
			# Gmail doesn't allow more than 5 or so simultaneous connections to the same IMAP mailbox. Every time I bring my VPN up or down it looks like another connection from another IP address, and gmail locks me out of my mail account. That's not I'm giving up on gmail

	==me.com==		==me.com==

Simson at 01:26, 4 January 2010

2010-01-04T01:26:52Z

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	One of the reasons to go with a managed imap provider is that they should also be able to provide a good web interface.		One of the reasons to go with a managed imap provider is that they should also be able to provide a good web interface.
	* gmail - Google's gmail interface.		==gmail imap review==
	** Message can be in multiple mailboxes.		Google's gmail interface.
	** Hard to see all of the contents of a mailbox using Google's interface		Advantages:
	** Slow to load in web browser.		* Message can be in multiple mailboxes.
	** 3-30 seconds to update.		* flag in apple Mail is same as "star" in gmail.
	** Complains when there are too many simultaneous IMAP connections.		Disadvantages:
	* gmail's imap interaction:		* Hard to see all of the contents of a mailbox using Google's interface
	** Somewhat confusing interaction between inbox in gmail interface and inbox in imap interface.		* Slow to load in web browser.
	** flag in apple Mail is same as "star" in gmail.		* 3-30 seconds to update.
	** Deleting a message on Mac moves the mail into "Deleted Messages" mailbox, which adds the "Deleted Messages" tag on gmail. But emptying the trash doesn't actually delete the message from the gmail archive, it just removes the tag.		* Complains when there are too many simultaneous IMAP connections.
			* Somewhat confusing interaction between inbox in gmail interface and inbox in imap interface.
			* Deleting a message on Mac moves the mail into "Deleted Messages" mailbox, which adds the "Deleted Messages" tag on gmail. But emptying the trash doesn't actually delete the message from the gmail archive, it just removes the tag.
			* "undo" doesn't work on Apple interface after a Delete.

	* me.com ~~- Apple's mail interface~~		==me.com==
	** Instant update		Advantages:
			* Instant update
			Disadvantages:
			* Client-side anti-spam and filters.

	* Pair (dovecot)		==pair.com (dovecot)==
	** 3 seconds to update.		Advantages:
			* 3 seconds to update.

	* Dreamhost		==Dreamhost (courier)==
	** Doesn't always update.		Disadvantages:
	** Arbitrarily archives mail.		* Doesn't always update.
	** anti-spam whitelist filtering is based on return-path, which means it doesn't work if you forward all of your email through a service like @acm.org.		* Arbitrarily archives mail.
	** Some downtime.		* anti-spam whitelist filtering is based on return-path, which means it doesn't work if you forward all of your email through a service like @acm.org.
			* Some downtime.

Simson at 22:38, 2 January 2010

2010-01-02T22:38:00Z

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	* gmail - Google's gmail interface.		* gmail - Google's gmail interface.
	** Message can be in multiple mailboxes.		** Message can be in multiple mailboxes.
	** Hard to see all of the contents of a mailbox.		** Hard to see all of the contents of a mailbox using Google's interface
	** Slow to load in web browser.		** Slow to load in web browser.
	** 3-30 seconds to update.		** 3-30 seconds to update.
	** Complains when there are too many simultaneous IMAP connections.		** Complains when there are too many simultaneous IMAP connections.
			* gmail's imap interaction:
			** Somewhat confusing interaction between inbox in gmail interface and inbox in imap interface.
			** flag in apple Mail is same as "star" in gmail.
			** Deleting a message on Mac moves the mail into "Deleted Messages" mailbox, which adds the "Deleted Messages" tag on gmail. But emptying the trash doesn't actually delete the message from the gmail archive, it just removes the tag.

	* me.com - Apple's mail interface		* me.com - Apple's mail interface

Simson at 19:46, 2 January 2010

2010-01-02T19:46:36Z

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	** Slow to load in web browser.		** Slow to load in web browser.
	** 3-30 seconds to update.		** 3-30 seconds to update.
			** Complains when there are too many simultaneous IMAP connections.

	* me.com - Apple's mail interface		* me.com - Apple's mail interface

Simson at 16:36, 2 January 2010

2010-01-02T16:36:10Z

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	** Arbitrarily archives mail.		** Arbitrarily archives mail.
	** anti-spam whitelist filtering is based on return-path, which means it doesn't work if you forward all of your email through a service like @acm.org.		** anti-spam whitelist filtering is based on return-path, which means it doesn't work if you forward all of your email through a service like @acm.org.
			** Some downtime.

Simson at 16:35, 2 January 2010

2010-01-02T16:35:44Z

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	** Doesn't always update.		** Doesn't always update.
	** Arbitrarily archives mail.		** Arbitrarily archives mail.
			** anti-spam whitelist filtering is based on return-path, which means it doesn't work if you forward all of your email through a service like @acm.org.

Simson at 16:34, 2 January 2010

2010-01-02T16:34:16Z

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	* Pair (dovecot)		* Pair (dovecot)
	** 3 seconds to update.		** 3 seconds to update.

			* Dreamhost
			** Doesn't always update.
			** Arbitrarily archives mail.

Simson at 16:22, 2 January 2010

2010-01-02T16:22:45Z

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	** Hard to see all of the contents of a mailbox.		** Hard to see all of the contents of a mailbox.
	** Slow to load in web browser.		** Slow to load in web browser.
	** 3-10 seconds to update.		** 3-30 seconds to update.

	* me.com - Apple's mail interface		* me.com - Apple's mail interface

Simson: Created page with '; Jan 2, 2010 - Review of IMAP Servers Increasingly I've been having problems with the Dreamhost imap server and its interactions with the Apple Mail.app application. The proble…'

2010-01-02T16:14:30Z

Created page with '; Jan 2, 2010 - Review of IMAP Servers Increasingly I've been having problems with the Dreamhost imap server and its interactions with the Apple Mail.app application. The proble…'

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; Jan 2, 2010 - Review of IMAP Servers

Increasingly I've been having problems with the Dreamhost imap server and its interactions with the Apple Mail.app application. The problems I've noticed include:
* A persistent tendency to create INBOX.INBOX.INBOX.INBOX...INBOX inboxes inside my INBOX. This seems to be a bug with Mail.app interacting with Dreamhost's mail courier mail server.
* Improper handling of the IMAP NOTIFY extension, so that deletes and moves on my laptop don't get immediately handled on the desktop.

I've reviewed three other imap servers and they all handle push properly.
* gmail (Google; not sure what they are using)
* me.com (Apple; seems to be based on the old Netscape code)
* Pair (dovecot)

One of the reasons to go with a managed imap provider is that they should also be able to provide a good web interface.
* gmail - Google's gmail interface.
** Message can be in multiple mailboxes.
** Hard to see all of the contents of a mailbox.
** Slow to load in web browser.
** 3-10 seconds to update.

* me.com - Apple's mail interface
** Instant update

* Pair (dovecot)
** 3 seconds to update.